i am just thinking if there could ever be anything that would raise consciousness in the minds of millions of jws that this a completely hoax.
what could spark millions of them at once, any thoughts?..
I'm afraid history has shown us that nothing can cause such a reaction among JWs. Really big things (1975, the Rutherford power struggle) have happened in the past and they did not cause a mass exodus or anything like that.
Except all those things happened before the advent of the internet. A proper scandal (not like the UN thing which is a bit of a non-issue IMO) in the nternet era could have serious repercussions for the society. Things no longer occur in a vacuum.
hi all.
the irish branch has had lots of drama over the years from john may in the 1980s to the recent removal of practically all the branch committee in the mid noughties to its being closed down quite recently.. i heard on the grapevine that two of the branch committee had actually come to physical blows and there was blood on the carpet.. also many many witnesses spoke of the totalitarian environment there.. does anyone have anything further to corroborate or add to this?.
wildelover.
"There seems to be a very crude watercolour of a man in a cheap suit".
hi all.
the irish branch has had lots of drama over the years from john may in the 1980s to the recent removal of practically all the branch committee in the mid noughties to its being closed down quite recently.. i heard on the grapevine that two of the branch committee had actually come to physical blows and there was blood on the carpet.. also many many witnesses spoke of the totalitarian environment there.. does anyone have anything further to corroborate or add to this?.
wildelover.
LOL @ cedars.
This was posted on a FB group recently: http://www.facebook.com/groups/90686115834/permalink/10150546720315835/
the insidious bind the watchtower religion places on their members is unconscionable.. holding family and friends "hostage" as an extortion strategy may be their most potent weapon of enforced conformity.. .
in effect, like an armed criminal who points a gun at you and threatens "your money or your life", the watchtower leadership.
holds the power to separate dissenting members from those whom they most cherish.
Well I took that gun right off them and shot my own foot. I'd rather be wounded and free than live like that.
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What an encouraging, upbuilding thread.
dear friends,.
it has been a long time since i have posted.
time heals much pain, and finally, my family and i have been able to move on with our life outside of jw land.. many of you became our friends, our support system, and you know very well our exit story...we were labeled, slandered and disfellowshipped for having questions regarding the date 607. we sent out letters exposing the elders and circuit overseer to over 200 families.
Marvellous news. Do you know Lady Liberty you were the very first person I received a PM from here on JWN. This is what you wrote to me:
Dear Mickey Mouse,
Sorry I am just now replying to your message. I have been away from the forum for a while, and was shocked to see I had 8 missed messages. So now I am playing catch up. I am glad our story has been useful to you. Sometimes it's just nice to know you are not alone! Hang in there!
Sincerely,
Lisa/Lady Liberty
Thank you for updating your story.
they warn the person actually reading the book that they should heed their warnings of armageddon, as it "will come in your lifetime".
since they now pin it on the life of anybody who reads the book, only one of those who read it needs to die to prove them wrong.. if i die it didnt come in my lifetime neither!
don t these clowns really think about some of the stuff they print?.
Don t these clowns REALLY think about some of the stuff they print?
Um, evidently not.
i stopped the study.
my mother started going to meetings again too.
the relationship became serious right before i went back home.
Welcome. I'm sending you a PM.
yes it's my 11th jwn birthday.. i could never have imagined when i started posting here as a 36 year old and technically still 'active' jw just how interesting the journey out would be.
lots of members have helped and influenced me over the years, mary, the 'norwegians' (not universally popular i know), little toe, jgnat, ian (dansk), alan f, alleymom, blondie, leo, blues brother, undercover, farkel, minimus, kid a, funkyderek, james woods, leavingwt, sizemik and so many others who have come and gone.
thanks to all of you, even if your names escape me for now please know that you are appreciated.. nic'.
pucker up monkey man! xx
LOL!
so in my mid teens i finally refused to stop all jw activity naively thinking i may be able to live a more normal life.
(i was already taken out of school at 14.
) after this i wasn't allowed to go outside even a few feet in front of the door by myself.
Sort of but not as extreme as your situation. When I was 16 my parents didn't like me going out with someone so they made me split up with him and restricted my movements and dropped/picked me up at work so they knew where I was at all times.
